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As a sizing reference: I'm 5'7", 155 lbs (yeah, I'm a little guy), medium build (BDU top medium/regular, BDU pant medium/short), waist 32", chest 43". Keep this in mind when you read my comments with respect to sizing, so you have an idea of how the garments featured below will fit on you. ALL garments in these pages are size Medium, unless stated otherwise.

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OTTE Gear Alpine Trouser

6/3/08 - These are OTTE Gear's matching soft shell trouser to the Alpine Jacket featured above. Well, in a different colour, obviously. The OTTE Gear Alpine Trouser is a lightweight, breathable and weather resistant soft shell pant. It's also available in Black, Crye MultiCam and Foliage Green.

Material - The OTTE Alpine Trouser is made of the same Tweave Durastretch fabric as the Jacket, but is unlined (no X-static lining material). In general, the legs require less insulation than the body under the same conditions since they don't generate as much heat or moisture and have less effect on your core temperature. Durastretch is a technical stretch woven with 91% nylon and 9% spandex for the shell/face material. It is a durable, abrasion resistant, water and wind resistant, low-bulk, breathable fabric with excellent stretch and recovery properties. The Multi-directional (4-way) permanent-stretch spandex has 100% memory for shape retention. It's the same fabric as that used on my Arc'teryx Bravo pants, with the addition of NanoSphere DWR coating (more on that below).

Here's a summary of the features on the Alpine Trouser soft shell, medium size shown:

  • Material - The Alpine Trouser shown here is in OTTE's 'Light Coyote' colour which is a very nice shade. It's a warmer colour than Khaki, and just a hair lighter than USMC Coyote Brown. It's also available in Black, Foliage and Crye MultiCam. As mentioned above, I've had experience with Tweave Durastretch before, with the Arc'Teryx Bravo pants, and I like the material. The Alpine Trouser Tweave fabric has the same Schoeller NanoSphere DWR coating as the Alpine jacket, which is very water resistant and slick to the touch, even though the fabric is textured. Water beads up on the surface and it doesn't wet out when soaked for long periods. The nanoparticles in the NanoSphere finish form a fine structure on the textile surface. Water or substances such as oil or ketchup simply run off the NanoSphere surface which is naturally self-cleaning, and any residue can easily be rinsed off with a little water. The NanoSphere coating has a high level of abrasion resistance, and the protective function is retained even with heavy-duty use. The trousers therefore require less frequent washings at lower temperatures (wash resistance is up to 100 washings). No fabric softener or dryer sheets are to be used. NanoSphere is applied to the exposed side of the fabric, and does go through to the other side of the fabric; depending upon the thickness of the fabric. It may not have the same degree of repellency on the back side as the front, but it does indeed protect both sides.
    Since the inside of the pants are unlined, they rely on the light weight and breathability of the Tweave fabric to dry quickly, rather than wicking.
  • Climbing-inspired cut - The climbing inspired cut of the trouser is like the jacket - athletic and streamlined without having a lot of excess material. You can see in the photos below that they're not baggy, nor are they too tight. The waist/rise is high enough to keep the pants secure and comfortable during strenuous activity. The knees are shaped for flexibility and range of motion.


Front

Side and rear views

Front/side slash pockets

Cuffs tightened
  • Suspender attach points inside waist - The waist is elasticized all around except for a portion in the back, and suprisingly comfortable for an elastic waist. A bottom of the waistband hem is finished with binding tape. There are four loops sewn inside the waistband for attachment of suspenders. The five belt loops will fit belts up to 2" wide, like riggers belts.
  • Double sliders on fly - The waist has a snap button and the fly has a two-way zipper; it can open from the top or bottom. This makes it easier to access when you're wearing a rucksack, harness or taking a knee.
  • Zippered hand pockets - The side/slash hand pockets are constructed of Tweave, but with a mesh fabric bottom that might provide a bit of venting if the pocket zipper is opened. The zipper can be closed to prevent snow, mud or water from entering the pocket.
  • "Envelope" cargo pockets - The roomy 9" x 9" side cargo pockets have and 'envelope' top for a bit of added security for the contents. The pocket is pleated to accomodate bulkier items. The flap is secured with snaps; the male snap attached to a short loop for putting your finger behind. This makes it easier to snap with your thumb and index finger. Two drain holes are provided at the bottom of the pocket.

Suspender attach points

Pocket and waist details

Side cargo pocket

Bottom cuffs
  • Snap closure adjustment on cuffs - The cuffs have two snap positions and a tab for a snug fit around boots. Since the fabric is stretchy, it keeps some tension around the ankle and keeps it quite secure.
  • Boot tie down/stirrup tabs inside cuffs - There are two 1" wide web loops to serve as stirrup/boot tie down attach points. 550 cord can be used. When tramping around in snow, I've found stirrup loops to be essential for preventing the trouser cuff from riding up over the top of the boot and letting snow in. Keeping them tied down prevents snow and moisture from running down into the boot.
  • Lightweight and packable - The Alpine Trouser folds up into a pretty compact and lightweight package. I wouldn't hesitate to bring it along as a second pair of pants if inclement weather is expected.

Sizing, fit etc - Shown here is the Medium size, which has a regular length inseam of 32". I normally wear medium-short, with a 30" inseam, but I found that the Alpine Trousers weren't too long for me. Normally, 32" inseam pants cuffs will touch the ground nead my heels, but the Alpine Trouser cuff diameter is narrow enough that it doesn't allow the cuff to fall below all the way to the bottom of the heel. Works for me. If the cuff is tightened around my boot, it eliminates the issue. The pant cut is very comfortable and unrestricitve. The stretch nature of the Tweave plays its part in adding to the range of motion as it stretches.
Like the Alpine Jacket, the trouser has a slightly coarse texture which makes it quieter than some other tighter weave nylons. It has less of the nylon 'swish' to it. I'd estimate the comfort level of the Alpine Trousers at approximately 72° and below, depending on the level of exertion. Although they're designed for inclement weather, they really can be worn anytime.

OTTE Gear Alpine Trouser (MultiCam)

12/26/08 - This is another item that I've been waiting for: OTTE Gear's matching soft shell trousers to the Alpine Jacket featured above, in Crye MultiCam. The OTTE Gear Alpine Trouser is a lightweight, breathable and weather resistant soft shell pant. It's also available in Black, Lt Coyote (shown above), Sand and Foliage Green.

The MultiCam Alpine trouser shares the same features as the Lt. Coyote one featured above, which are reiterated here, but with a couple of small differences (the Lt. Coyote one was an early production version):

Material - The Alpine Trouser is made of the same Tweave Durastretch fabric as the Jacket, but is unlined (no X-static lining material). In general, the legs require less insulation than the body under the same conditions since they don't generate as much heat or moisture and have less effect on your core temperature. Durastretch is a technical stretch woven with 91% nylon and 9% spandex for the shell/face material. It is a durable, abrasion resistant, water and wind resistant, low-bulk, breathable fabric with excellent stretch and recovery properties. The Multi-directional (4-way) permanent-stretch spandex has 100% memory for shape retention. The MultiCam pattern printing on the Tweave is extremely nice, both in colour and quality.

Here's a summary of the features on the Alpine Trouser soft shell, medium size shown:

  • Material - The Alpine Trouser shown here is in Crye MultiCam. I've had experience with Tweave Durastretch before, with the Arc'Teryx Bravo pants, and I like the material. The Alpine Trouser Tweave fabric has the same Schoeller NanoSphere DWR coating as the Alpine jacket, which is very water resistant and slick to the touch, even though the fabric is textured. Water beads up on the surface and it doesn't wet out when soaked for long periods. The nanoparticles in the NanoSphere finish form a fine structure on the textile surface. Water or substances such as oil or ketchup simply run off the NanoSphere surface which is naturally self-cleaning, and any residue can easily be rinsed off with a little water. The NanoSphere coating has a high level of abrasion resistance, and the protective function is retained even with heavy-duty use. The trousers therefore require less frequent washings at lower temperatures (wash resistance is up to 100 washings). No fabric softener or dryer sheets are to be used. NanoSphere is applied to the exposed side of the fabric, and does go through to the other side of the fabric; depending upon the thickness of the fabric. It may not have the same degree of repellency on the back side as the front, but it does indeed protect both sides.
    Since the inside of the pants are unlined, they rely on the light weight and breathability of the Tweave fabric to dry quickly, rather than wicking.
  • Climbing-inspired cut - The climbing inspired cut of the trouser is like the jacket - athletic and streamlined without having a lot of excess material. You can see in the photos below that they're not baggy, nor are they too tight. The waist/rise is high enough to keep the pants secure and comfortable during strenuous activity. The knees are shaped for flexibility and range of motion.


Front

Side and rear views

Side cargo pockets

Suspenders
  • Suspender attach points inside waist - The waist is elasticized all around except for a portion in the back, and suprisingly comfortable for an elastic waist. A bottom of the waistband hem is finished with binding tape. There are four loops sewn inside the waistband for attachment of suspenders. The five belt loops will fit belts up to 2" wide, like riggers belts.
  • Suspenders - the suspenders are made of black elastic and attach to the pant suspender loops with velcro tabs. They adjust in length via plastic sliders in the front.
  • Double sliders on fly - The waist has a snap button and the fly has a two-way zipper; it can open from the top or bottom. This makes it easier to access when you're wearing a rucksack, harness or taking a knee. I noticed that on my MultiCam trousers, the fly is longer than on the Coyote pants - it extends further down. The zipper on the Coyote pants was a molded tan plastic zipper, whereas the one on the MultiCam pant is a black coil zipper.
  • Zippered hand pockets - The side/slash hand pockets are constructed of Tweave, but with a mesh fabric bottom that might provide a bit of venting if the pocket zipper is opened. The zipper can be closed to prevent snow, mud or water from entering the pocket.
  • "Envelope" cargo pockets - The roomy 9" x 9" side cargo pockets have and 'envelope' top for a bit of added security for the contents. The pocket is pleated to accomodate bulkier items. The flap is secured with snaps; the male snap attached to a short loop for putting your finger behind. This makes it easier to snap with your thumb and index finger. Two drain holes are provided at the bottom of the pocket. The snaps on the MultiCam pants are black vs. the silver snaps on the Coyote pants.

Waist details

Front suspender attach point

Rear suspender attach point

Side cargo pocket

Bottom cuffs
  • Snap closure adjustment on cuffs - The cuffs have two snap positions and a tab for a snug fit around boots. Since the fabric is stretchy, it keeps some tension around the ankle and keeps it quite secure. The snap cap is now green instead of the brass colour on the Coyote pants, and the snaps themselves are black oxide instead of silver.
  • Boot tie down/stirrup tabs inside cuffs - There are two 1" wide web loops to serve as stirrup/boot tie down attach points. 550 cord can be used. When tramping around in snow, I've found stirrup loops to be essential for preventing the trouser cuff from riding up over the top of the boot and letting snow in. Keeping them tied down prevents snow and moisture from running down into the boot.
  • Lightweight and packable - The Alpine Trouser folds up into a pretty compact and lightweight package. I wouldn't hesitate to bring it along as a second pair of pants if inclement weather is expected.

Sizing, fit etc - Shown here is the Medium size, which has a regular length inseam of 32". I normally wear medium-short, with a 30" inseam, but I found that the Alpine Trousers weren't too long for me. Normally, 32" inseam pants cuffs will touch the ground nead my heels, but the Alpine Trouser cuff diameter is narrow enough that it doesn't allow the cuff to fall below all the way to the bottom of the heel. Works for me. If the cuff is tightened around my boot, it eliminates the issue. The pant cut is very comfortable and unrestricitve. The stretch nature of the Tweave plays its part in adding to the range of motion as it stretches. I did notice that the MultiCam pant seems to have a slightly higher rise than the Coyote pant, and fit a bit tighter at the waist. I couldn't see any difference in the measurement, so it might have been stronger elastic in the MultiCam pants that gave me that impression.
The trouser has a slightly coarse texture like the jacket which makes it quieter than some other tighter weave nylons. It has less of the nylon 'swish' to it. I'd estimate the comfort level of the Alpine Trousers at approximately 72° and below, depending on the level of exertion. After wearing these for a while, I'd say that if you're running around, they work best if the temperature is in the low 60s and below. If you want a MultiCam soft shell pant, these are your best choice.

At a recent range session, the weather varied from chilly to 'okay', with rain on and off. I wore the Alpine trousers and they kept me dry when it did rain, and were comfortable throughout the session. I did get mud on the knees when I went to the kneeling position, but when the mud dried, it flaked right off, leaving no trace.

 


Beyond Tactical Clothing

1/24/08 - For over a decade, Beyond Clothing (formerly separate sites - Beyond Fleece and Beyond Tactical) has been a supplier of high-end custom made cold-weather fleece and soft shells for the outdoor/mountaineering community. With the launch of their new website in May 2007 and a move from Oregon to Seattle, WA, Scott Jones and the Beyond crew now offer an entire line of custom cold weather clothing, from base layers to insulated and wet weather garments. They also integrated their Tactical line into the Beyond Clothing site.

Mojave Shock Pant with Convertible Option - The Shock Pant is Beyond's main pant. They also make BDU pants. Like the Shock jacket, the Shock pant is available in different models depending on the material. The Cold Fusion is Winter Weight Schoeller WB-400 w 3X dry. The Cold Play is Spring/Fall Weight Schoeller Dry Skin Extreme w 3X dry. The Steel is lightweight Schoeller Dynamic. There is also a fourth fabric option; the Mojave, which uses an even lighter weight nylon with 3X Dry treatment meant for hot weather. Breathability and comfort in hot environments is the main feature of the fabric, with some water and wind resistance. The Mojave Shock Pant with Convertible Option is shown here.

  • Material - Lightweight nylon with 3X Dry treatment. It reminds me of PCU L5 Epic Nextec fabric, only lighter weight and more abrasion resistant (the Epic Nextec material tends to pill in high-wear areas).
  • Convertible to shorts - Love this feature! The pants legs separate just above the knees and below the side pockets. An all-round zipper is protected by a flap on the inside so it isn't scratchy on the inside. The pants legs zip on and off in a jiffy, without having to remove the pants, even when wearing boots. The ankle zippers come in handy for that.
  • Side-entry pockets - The side-entry pockets have zipper closures, which is a good thing because they were pretty shallow. I asked Scott about this, and he said that originally, the Shock pant was designed for a stretch fabric. They have since deepened the pocket for the Mojave pant as it does not stretch as much as the other soft shells.
  • Gusseted diamond crotch - For comfort, range of motion and to prevent a blown crotch seam.

Overall front view


Converted to shorts

  • Suspender loops in waist (optional) - Four loops of 0.5" webbing are sewn inside the waistband as suspender attach points.
  • Thigh patch pockets (optional) - The thigh patch pockets measure 6" tall and 5" wide with a velcro-closed flap. They're pretty small, but sized to prevent overloading them for the lightweight fabric. Anything larger and there'll be a lot of swinging. The shorts-conversion zipper also precludes them from extending lower. The velcro-closed flap is tacked on both sides so it doesn't flap open completely, making the contents more secure.
  • Ankle zipper (optional) - As mentioned above, the 9" side ankle zippers come in real handy when I want to convert to shorts or back without having to take the entire pant off. They allow the ankles to fit over boots.
  • Stirrup loops (optional) - Two small stirrup loops are also offered as an option for the Shock pants. They are standard within SOCOM's PCU-CS system and Beyond felt that they'd be good to offer to the consumer as well. I used stirrups with 550 cord on my L5 PCU pants while hiking in the snow, to keep snow from going into the top of my boots, so I can definitely see the value in having them there. The ones on the Shock were a bit small, so I'd like to see them a bit larger in the future.

 


Zipper fly and suspender loops

Thigh patch pocket

Conversion zipper

Ankle zippers and stirrup loops

The Mojave Shock pants are very lightweight and comfortable. I've had a mix of cold and warm weather here and wore them in both. Obviously, they're a bit lightweight for cold weather, but I found them comfortable in temps around 60° and up. You'd want thicker pants for temps below that. The ones I received were a bit snug around the hips. I wore them for a while to see if I really wanted to send them back to get altered, as I really like the pants and didn't want to be without them. I mentioned the snug fit to Scott and he explained that Beyond had designed the Mojave pant a bit snug overall as the wicking nature of the fabric allows for increased comfort. However, since the Mojave fabric doesn't stretch, I felt that a more relaxed fit would have been better. I initiated Beyond's Right Fit Guarrantee and sent them back. It only took a couple of weeks before I got them back (see below).

As for specifiying fit, this would be chosen at Step 5 within the "Build" portion of the ordering process. Average, Snug, Loose for Layering, or Baggy are the choices. Beyond always needs skin measurements, so that they know how the person is built, prior to their choice of fit.

New Pants Received - Turn-around was a quick two weeks and I got the altered pair (actually a brand new pair) of pants back with the requested change in fit. As you can see in the photos below, the fit is definitely more relaxed. I'd defintely recommend choosing the "Loose for layering" option. Beyond's philosophy with the Mojave fabric is not to have it too loose, since the 3XDry and the fabric itself can wick and cool the wearer, so you don't end up with a Mojave pant that's very loose. In their other products such as the Cold Fusion Shock Pant, Ultimate Cold Blooded pant, or Advantage BDU, the built for "layering" option would probably be even a bit looser as they are specifically for cold weather.


New, larger stirrup loops

Looser fit

The new pants also had the larger stirrup loops as I requested. Also, from other user input, the side-entry pockets have also been deepened by 1". Both are good improvements on an already great pair of pants. The convertible option is great if you travel light, as you only need one garment that functions as both pants and shorts. I wouldn't mind having the option of a slot or patch pocket on the rear for a wallet.

I have not provided a link to the Mojave Convertible Pants on the Beyond website because they have currently been removed from the website for winter. The beginning of winter is an incredibly busy time for Beyond, on both the tactical and consumer sides. Garments that are labor intensive, and are not a winter specific garment are at times taken off the site due to the customization complexity. Any customer already having decided on the product will still be able to order. After the new year, products will be changed back to active status.

In summary, Beyond offers something no one else currently does - custom fit and semi-custom features on high performance and tactical wear with prices on par with off-the-shelf garments (depending on the number of additional options chosen above the base garment) and a quick turn-around time from when you order. Granted, you're limited to the options that Beyond offers for each garment, so you still may not get a completely custom garment with ALL the features you want. A fully custom garment would be prohibitively costly for most (any new or non-standard feature has to be R&D'd first, which requires time and effort). But, Beyond has considered their menu of options carefully and based them on more than a decade of experience, so the feature options they offer are very practical and should cover the majority of users' needs. They're also adding more options as time goes on, and certain requests become more popular. Another thing that I noted is the high quality of construction. These garments do not look custom (in other words, there are no wavy lines of stitching like some custom, hand-made, or even factory garments) - you can't tell until you put them on and feel the fit. They've got this custom thing down to a science, and it's pretty impressive.

 

 

 


TAD Gear Force 10 Softshell Alpine Cargo Pant (2010)

3/5/10 - One of TAD Gear's latest releases is a softshell version of their popular Force 10 Cargo Utilities; the Force 10 Softshell Alpine Cargos. Following a similar format to their Force 10's, the Softshell offers the same utility in a more streamlined package; taking advantage of the stretch material properties, while offering near water-proof protection against the wet.

I've been bugging Patrick at TAD for a few years to offer a softshell trouser to compliment their softshell jacket line, so I'm glad to see these finally come out. All I was asking for was a pair of Force 10s in softshell material, as I appreciate the utility of the Force 10 pocket layout for every day wear. I have other softshell pants, and for some reason, some are over simplified and lacking the storage that I'm used to in regular pants. One of the hold ups was finding a suitable material for the pants, as the heavier softshell material used for jackets proved to be too warm or stuffy for the legs.

Material/Sizing - The F10 Softshell's are made from all-weather, 2-layer Sharkskin softshell material. Upon initial examination, I thought that it was the same 3-layer Sharkskin material as used on the SS v3.0 Stealth Hoodie/Jacket. It is very similar in hand/feel, and has a similar black inner lining fabric. The facing material is 100% poly jersey blend, instead of the didicated Coolmax layer in the 3-layer Sharkskin. Upon closer examination, the Softshell pant material almost imperceptibly thicker/beefier than the jacket Sharkskin fabric, which makes sense since it's a pant and will see more wear and tear. The 2-layer Softshell material was chosen for a couple of reasons. Since these were designed to be an active pant, breathability was a leading requirement. When trying out different fabrics, Patrick found that a 2-layer fabric was more suited to pant construction than the 3-layer, even though the 3-layer was plenty breathable for jacket construction. The 2-layer fabric has a higher moisture vapour transmission rate and is less likely to feel clammy or uncomfortable during strenuous activity. For a soft shell pant, it strikes a good balance between comfort and protection from the elements.

The 2-layer Sharkskin fabric is a smooth-faced, relatively quiet, active-stretch outer shell with a smooth inner face. The M.E. Green is shown here. It has a Durable Water Repellant finish that shed water, and is thin enough to dry quickly. As I always do, I performed my rudimentary 'sink test', where I placed the pant leg in a dry sink, then proceeded to fill it up with as much water as possible without crossing a seam. I left it in the sink for about 6 hours, checking it periodically and making sure that I rubbed the submerged fabric to try to force some water into it. I was surprised to find that it performed like the 3-layer Sharkskin - it is essentially waterproof. The face fabric took on a little water, as expected, but the inside was completely dry. None made it through. Since the material is relatively thin, the water on the outside dried quickly. To date, this is the most water-resistant soft shell pant I've encountered.

The F10 SS is available in M.E. Green and U.E. Gray, in even waist sizes 28" through 42". The inseam is 37" and left unfinished. Take it to a tailor/dry cleaners to get them hemmed to the correct length. Shown above is the F10 Softshell with the M.E. Green Ranger Hoodie and F10 Ripstop pants for colour reference. It's a grey-green, almost identical to the the ripstop Force 10s.


Force 10 Softshells



Side cargo pocket detail

Features - Here are the features of the Force 10 Softshell Utility Cargos. (32" waist shown, inseam shortened to 30" by tailor):

  • 2" Waist increments - the F10 SS is available in even waist sizes 28" through 42", all with the inseam unfinished to 37". It cost me about $7 to get them hemmed at the local dry cleaners.
  • Button waist and Zipper fly - A Delrin-tooth colour-matched YKK zipper fly for convenient donning/doffing.
  • Seven 2-1/4" belt loops fit rigger belts (shown here with a Liger Belt). The front two belt loops have colour-matched ITW Nexus D-ring gear keepers for dummy cording the contents of the front pockets. The belt loops are also located to accomodate placement of a hip holster.
  • Reinforced double seat with double needle stitching.
  • Reinforced knees - The same-fabric, double-layer knees have a knee pad pocket with bottom slot so padding can be inserted through the velcro-closed entrance at the bottom. They're sized to fit TAD's T-Pro Impact knee pads (shown here), or Crye Precision knee pads (both not included). The knees do not have darts like the other Force 10 pants, and instead have a straighter leg.
  • Gusseted crotch


    Front details

    Inside front

    Rear details

    Gusseted crotch

  • Two rear 9" deep x 6" wide pockets with a YKK zipper closure. The zipper pull has a little 'garage' to protect it when closed.
  • Two 5" deep x 4" wide welted cell phone/utility pockets in the front - no closure. These continue to be one of my favourite features of the Force 10 pants and are the perfect size for my cell phone, sunglass case or keys, and very convenient.
  • Two side/slash pockets - these have same-fabric reinforcements for pocket knife clips. Inside the right pocket is a small 3.5" tall x 3" wide coin pocket which also fits my cell phone or pager.
  • Flush-sewn side cargo pockets - The side cargo pockets are actually recessed into the side of the pant leg for a very low profile. They rely on the stretch properties of the fabric for expansion. They measure about 9" tall x 9" wide at the top, and 7" at the bottom. They closed by a 7" YKK zipper with protected pull in the closed position. A removable 3-D glow in the dark TAD Gear molded logo attaches to a small velcro patch on the bottom of the right side cargo pocket.
  • All pockets are lined with blended, quick-drying fabric. Very smooth and comfortable.

Construction and workmanship are excellent, with all points of stress bartacked.


Pocket knife clip reinforcement

Flush-sewn cargo pockets

Knee reinforcements/pad pockets

Comes with unfinished hem

Observations/Notes - The F10 SS pocket design is a departure from the F10's we're used to, with a more streamlined profile from the lack of flaps or bellows cargo pockets. With softshell pants, I usually have two main things I'm interested in: how water resistant they are, and are they stuffy. The first question was answered with my sink test where the F10 SS material proved itself to be practically water proof. This was later supported when we had a few weeks of very wet weather, with a lot of heavy rain. I wore the pants daily, and they kept me dry. The seams aren't sealed, so there's always the possibility of water making its way through the seams, but I didn't observe any rain getting through. I think that the side cargo pocket zipper could have benefited from an outer storm welt over it, as the zipper fabric can get wet, absorb water and transfer that to the contents inside (it'd be minimal, though). Or, use a water proof zipper as used on TAD's hard shells.

I was very impressed with the lack of stuffiness when wearing these pants. I wore them in wet and dry weather, cold and warm. I wore them in temps in the high 70's and they didn't feel any different from non-soft shell pants of similar weight. I'd say that they feel lighter and cooler than a pair of jeans in warm weather, and no more stuffy - they seem to allow sweat to escape very well. The 2-layer Sharkskin fabric is lined with the poly face fabric, but I wouldn't consider it 'insulated' as it's relatively thin. It's there more as a comfort layer (wick away sweat so the inside of the pant doesn't feel clammy) than an insulative one. It's also very comfortable on the skin. If more warmth is needed, as thin base layer tight can be worn underneath the pants.

The F10 SS pants have a straight cut leg, without any taper. I think that the unfinished hem necessitates this to some extent, so when I had mine shortened to fit me, the cuff is a bit wider (9.75") than the F10 ripstops (9") that I have. I'd prefer a narrower cuff personally, as far as looks go, but it's no big deal here, especially since it covers the shoes a bit more when it's raining. The F10 SoftShell pants are versatile enough that they don't have to be wet weather-only pants; I use them as regular pants even when it's dry.

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 


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